Who Do You Want in Charge?

March 4th, 2004

bush and kerry

I think the choice is simple.

Confidence. Leadership. A REAL man. Bush ‘04.

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31 Responses to “Who Do You Want in Charge?”

  1. bush also appears to be “pro-negro”

  2. That uppity honky Kerry is standing infront of a private jet. DOWN WITH THE MAN!!!!!@!

  3. What? Open your eyes boys! Come on, Bush? The war? Don’t you know?! Read some stuff. Show facts.

    John McCain! Come on! Oooh. Chortle.

    Catching a football. Can’t believe you’re so dumb. Pansy? Cathartic maybe. Oooh. Up my butt.

    Puppets, you are all puppets.

  4. everyone knows bush allowed 9/11 to happen so he could line his pockets with money. hell i’ve heard he even hand selected the pilots. i’ve also heard the planes never existed. bush is a liar he’ll probably buy this election too!! god bless the liberals, without them we wouldnt have any entertainment.

  5. Rick, don’t forget to credit porno. Without it you’d have no female entertainment.

  6. Was that a crack against me?? If it was, that was pretty weak. Rather than making an argument against mine you choose to belittle someone. Yea, that’s mature. I forgot, I’m dealing with someone that knows all about politics. And by the way, it’s “without it you wouldn’t have any female entertainment” Use proper syntax please.

  7. okay, lets retract those claws. seriously … it’s the internet.

  8. sorry rick, i’m gonna have to go with amber on this one…hahaha…you’re obviously talking some shit but get offended when she mentions you never get any ass? come on man…

  9. Thanks. Someone likes me. (finally)

    Really .. Rick I would say those two statements mean the same thing.

    Without it you’d have no female entertainment.
    Without it you wouldn’t have any female entertainment. Who cares?

    Cory .. I don’t even know you. Don’t mock me.

  10. Careful with the stock-selling clown comments then.

  11. http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/crime/ny-usleak063697857mar06,0,2546838.story?coll=ny-licrime-headlines

    http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usmemo053696004mar05,0,7804665.story?coll=ny-uspolitics-headlines

  12. i said nothing about integrity. i just think it’s abundantly clear one man can handle the pigskin, while our man kerry … well, i think we can see he’s not on the same level.

    our choice is clear - bush 2004.

  13. I wonder who would win with the Segways. Or .. pretzels. Heheh. I think the sun was in Ol’ Kerry’s eyes. But I know what he can do better!

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04064/280885.stm

    He could kick Bush’s ass in ORANGE AISLE BOWLING!

    ;o)

  14. and this guy has the balls, the AUDACITY, to talk smack about bush playing football with these very children:

    http://www.sptimes.com/News/070801/Columns/George_Bush_is_clearl.shtml

  15. i swear to god, anything/anyone from florida is brain-dead

  16. I love the irony in the idea that there is some kind of Republican conspiracy going on with GW at the helm. He’s either the most accomplished moron, which may cause us to redefine moron, or a great actor, in which case the liberals should be pleased with an actor in office.

  17. This explains the file situation. ;)

    http://cryptome.org/judiciary-sys.htm

    They nicknamed it ‘Memogate’ heheh

    One more. Did ANY of you read this? How safe do you really feel … from December 2002.

    senate.intelligence.gov/findings.pdf

    Read & respond.

  18. Yeah, I read that findings.pdf. I don’t really know what you wish to imply by it though. The file said nothing about GW, who seems to be your main target. From the file, it is also not possible to distinguish between an underfunded intelligence community and conspiracy (which I get the feeling you are advocating). It also mentioned quite a few times that the problems stemmed from the late 90’s, which would implicate Clinton more than Bush. So instead of just posting a link, maybe you could articulate your point a little more clearly so that you can be understood a little better.

    I’m working on that other file you posted; it’s lengthy. But after reading the first few paragraphs, I’m already left wondering what exactly your thoughts are on this fiasco. I’m guessing this is again a conspiracy theory type thing. I’m not trying to deny the idea that files were stolen (which seems quite true via these documents). What I am asking is, files were stolen, so what? What is your point? Is it that Bush is orchestrating an extremely crafty plan to exercise complete power? Or is it just that republicans are immoral? Do you not think that the democrats would ever pull such a stunt?

    Anyhow, give some commentary on your links. Since most of your links are just factual government documents, I am left wondering what exactly your purpose in posting them is. So include some of your own commentary with the links and others will have an easier time responding.

  19. These are interesting.

    Factoids?*
    This will blow your mind.

    1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

    2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

    3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)

    4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4 pg.113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)

    5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer a United States. No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of operating under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C. 914

    6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the “US Government” held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)

    7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration. The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5 forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the cites above)

    8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since 1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428, 1 Stat. 138-178)

    9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat. 138-178)

    10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House Report (103-826)

    11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary System. *

    12. The UN is a One World Super Government. *

    13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony. There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations. *

    14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that “New York City was the capital of the World” and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2)

    15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)

    16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on the top left United States Treasury.)

    17. You own no property, slaves can’t own property. Read the Deed to the property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

    18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)

    19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)

    20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

    21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

    22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles of Association October 20, 1774.)

    23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

    24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)

    25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

    26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

    27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

    28. The Pope’s laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)

    29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our children. (Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E. 146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13 N.Y. REP 378, 481)

    30. Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828 dictionary for definition of Estate.)

    31. “The People” does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243)

    32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)

    33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd. 363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.

    34. Everything in the “United States” is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath lake. Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803)

    35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)

    36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple. *

    37. The good news is we don’t have to fulfill “our” fictitious obligations. You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another’s fictitious obligation. *

    38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World during the Depression. The building of Germanys infrastructure in the 1930’s including the Railroads was financed by the United States. That way those who call themselves “Kings,” “Prime Ministers,” and “Fuher,”etc could sit back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending their Countries which didn’t even exist. The millions of innocent people who died for nothing. Isn’t it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in these fiascoes? That is where the “Bank of International Settlements” is located. Wars are manufactured to keep your eye off the ball. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of “Government” in place. *

    39. The “United States” did not declare Independence from Great Britain or King George. *

    40. Guess who owns the UN?

    * Caveat Redemptor - Verify for yourself

  20. I paste them because

    1 - they aren’t known to the mainstream
    2 - i find them interesting
    3 - they are relevant
    4 - re: intelligence report
    I never said anything about Bush being my target. They all are. Ashcroft & Rove & Cheney & Rice, etc …. The event could have been prevented. The document says so. Not my ‘conspiracy theories’ - so, in turn .. why is there another intelligence committee now? That Bush chose personally? That he pondered over for a bit over a week before even agreeing to set up. Now the Administration won’t testify under oath, and Bush has stated he will only meet with 2 members for one hour … not the whole panel. Why? He said on Meet the Press “I don’t testify.”

    5- About the files thing. I don’t know too much about it, but it’s been exposed about six months now. I don’t know what they took, how they got it, (i read laptops were stolen?) .. but it is not a conspiracy theory either. Or else this type of investigation and subpoena of possible evidence would even be conducted. Agree?

    6- I usually do not post conspiracy theories. I try and tell people things that ARENT reported, but that I can back up if asked. But people only tend to read the main stuff. They don’t dive deeper. My brain just isn’t satisfied in seeing a headline and moving on. I like to do my homework. The more I do, the more I don’t like what I see. Hey, I voted for Nader in 2000. I’ve never considered myself a liberal or a conservative. But I’ll do whatever it takes to get this lying cabinet out of the White House. We’ve got too much life ahead of us. I don’t want it in their hands.

  21. Nader is very liberal, as you said, you voted for him in 2000.

    I complement you on trying to do your homework. But when you step outside of the mainstream, you have to be more cautious about what you read. You seem to have a tendency to post documents (like that 40 point bulletin) that don’t make a lot of sense. You also seem to have a tendency to just try and overwhelm your opponents by burying them in paperwork. Meanwhile, you don’t try and talk about many of your points, you switch topics very quickly. I think I can speak for all of the folks that post on this site by saying everyone is interested in discussing interesting points. But let’s discuss them, instead of just saying, “See! See! Look over here! Now over there.”

    As far as the findings.pdf, none of your listed targets were mentioned in that file. None. And as I mentioned last time, there were many dates listed that indicated problems went back to the late 90’s when Clinton was in power. The paper doesn’t talk about how the commitee was chosen, or what Bush did. So all of your points are secondary to that document. So I don’t see how that paper helps you out much.

    As far as your 40 point bulletin, many of those facts are just irrelevant. For exmple, if the Pope made some rule about something, it doesn’t mean it is an absolute rule. The idea of a rule of law is that it can be enforced in some manner. What is the pope going to do to me if I break one of his rules? Nothing. Other points on there, like the fact that none of us own land, are irrelevant. This is well known. What you own is the use of the land. Even this is only yours so long as you can prevent someone else from taking it from you.

    Slow down a bit and think your points over. There is no need to post forty pages of documents in a single day.

  22. Oh hey I just said they were interesting. ;) I never said they were fact.

    I do agree sometimes I don’t come across the right way, but most of the things I DO read are lengthy, often government documents. I can’t be partisan with a .gov file. These files are hard for me to shrink down in a summary.

    I quote myself “I never said anything about Bush being my target. They all are. Ashcroft & Rove & Cheney & Rice, etc …. ” No the names weren’t there .. but I said all of them. The whole Administration. Thus the etc. Although Condoleezza did fuck up with the August 6th memo.

    I just want answers. I’ve been messing around with unanswered questions for over two years now. There is such a complex wealth of information out there, I don’t even know how I could ever find out everything.

    As I write this, 8-10 rockets just were fired into the coalition green zone of Baghdad. Day before the interim signing.

    http://www.911independentcommission.org

    Here. Read those questions. I want to know THOSE answers.

  23. Do you consider yourself fully non-partisan? In your saying, “The Administration” do you mean the whole government in general? Or just the Bush government? Because as I’ve said a few times now, clearly Clinton had a hand in what turned out to be a intelligence disaster too. Do you want to catch him as well? Why the vendetta?

    If you are simultaneously looking for answers as well as posting things that you yourself don’t believe to be factual, then do you understand that you misrepresent yourself? I mean, I knowingly misrepresent myself sometimes too, but when I do it is often because I’m looking for opinions, not the truth.

  24. i threw in my 2 cents (more like a nickel) on bush, 9/11, etc here.

  25. I mean anyone who knew. The Adminstration in general. Our governmental leaders. They’re all guilty. But I hold the current Administration more accountable because they had NUMEROUS warnings and chose to ignore them.

    >>If you are simultaneously looking for answers as well as posting things that you yourself don’t believe to be factual, then do you understand that you misrepresent yourself?

    Erm. Those points were totally seperate from the 9/11 questions.

    I am wanting the answers to those questions by the commission. Don’t we all? That’s what I meant.

  26. we all want to get to the bottom of what happened and WHY it happened. the 9/11 attacks, and the Iraq intel fiasco. to me though, it sounds like we have a reoccurring theme here though:bad intel led to two regrettable events in modern US history. one, an attack on civilians on US soil, the other, the invasion of a sovereign nation based on false pretenses.

    once again though, bush is either the idiot democrats paint him as, or a maniacal genius, who either planned or ‘let’ 9/11 take place, and forged/hid/created documents regarding iraq’s WMD capability.

    to me, it’s somewhere right in the middle. bad intel let 9/11 happen right under our noses, and led bush, blair, et al. to believe iraq still had biological weapons, and a nuke program in one stage or another.

    should we have made 1000% sure? of course. but all signs pointed to yes - we had informants in Iraq telling CIA operatives they had the weapons. we had sat. photos that we were positve were WMD’s. either they never existed, or they have since been hidden. i think either scenario is equally likely. once again, to blame bush and his administration on ‘lying’ is to have one man shoulder the blame for what i would consider a blunder by most of the free world, and their intelligence agencies.

    i’m sure that over time more details will emerge, as they are now. hopefully the full truth, or enough for us to decipher, will come to the forefront, giving us all a clearer picture as to what exactly happened in sept. 01 and in Iraq as well.

  27. sweet peter, i just read #38 again…

    38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World during the Depression. The building of Germanys infrastructure in the 1930’s including the Railroads was financed by the United States. That way those who call themselves “Kings,” “Prime Ministers,” and “Fuher,”etc could sit back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending their Countries which didn’t even exist. The millions of innocent people who died for nothing. Isn’t it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in these fiascoes? That is where the “Bank of International Settlements” is located. Wars are manufactured to keep your eye off the ball. You have to have an enemy to keep the illusion of “Government” in place. *

    where the fark did you find that hilarity!?

  28. http://goodforthejews.com/kerryshlong.htm

  29. dear jesus!

  30. am i the only one who misses the good ol days of heated ‘debate’ on wtmcgee.com?

  31. ahhh the debate…where has your resident “victim” been these days?